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Routine amusement Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Yesterday I was at the first time mums group - basically the NHS corrals them all into a library and teaches them about stuff that any sensible person would know, but it's kind of an excuse to make mummy friends.  Now the first amusement of the day was that the Health Visitor was talking about "Positive Parenting" - this is a huge project which the government has thrown bags of cash behind and essentially the gist of it is that instead of getting frustrated with your children when they misbehave, you should praise good behaviour and ignore the bad... Now personally I'm in favour of this, it's a good policy.  Where it becomes a bad policy is when they have parents not telling their kids off for doing annoying/dangerous things because they believe in positive parenting... Um, no.  That's not parenting, you just can't be arsed to discipline them.  The Health Visitor seemed somewhat confused by what it's all about though.  What she did say is that consistency is key - which I absolutely agree with. 

She spoke about not getting enough sleep (not really a problem for me, except due to my own fault not getting blackout blinds installed).  And also about how babies don't go to sleep on schedule (mine does).  And how it's really hard to get them to eat (no problems there).  And how you have to do so much housework and they don't want to be put down (um, no, mine's quite content to amuse himself for a bit).  All the mummies wholeheartedly resonated with these problems smiling in recognition of these problems which bound them together as mummies.... She then went on to talk about routines and you could see the entire room of mummies recoil in horror. 

Then I had a slight smirk on my face... Here are these mummies who have been told they have to be baby-led, demand feed and generally be slaves to this small person's every whim.  They've all had about 4 months of no sleep, not being able to take a shower, not eating properly, feeling fat... And now the health visitor is saying "Actually there's a much easier way..."  LOL!  I'm sitting there with my wee guy, who is happily asleep and wakes up bang on 2:30 for his feed, then happily sits looking at all the other babies in some confusion since every single one of them was crying their eyes out at some point during the 2 hour session.  He was just quite happy to sit and take it all in. 

I'm very, very quiet about the fact that my baby is a Gina Ford addict.  You mention her name anywhere in mummy circles and people look aghast - they mistakenly believe she advocates leaving babies to cry and doesn't feed them if they are hungry and won't cuddle them etc. Anyone who's actually read The Contented Little Baby knows that isn't true.  It's actually about making sure all your baby's needs are met before they know they need it so there's less tears and stress. 

Occasionally some mummies will say "Oh I couldn't do that - I'll do <whatever other baby book>" but essentially it is all the same thing - it's about balancing all the feeding, sleeping and playing so that your baby knows what's coming next and so you have some time off scheduled. 

The Health Visitor predicted that although the mummies perhaps weren't ready to do a schedule now, they'd be back begging her for tips when the babies are a year old, they haven't had a full night's sleep ever, and they have to go back to work.  Funnily enough, I tend to agree with her.  I think having to go back to work was a huge catalyst for me putting this in place, as otherwise it would be impossible to work and look after CamdenX.  The more time off we give mothers, the less incentive they have for sorting out their baby into a sensible routine. Do I enjoy getting up at 7am with him?  No, definitely not.  Is it worth having those predictable nap times and baby-free evenings?  Infinitely so.

I've got DiamondTypist coming round to discuss an event we're planning for September on Friday.  She doesn't have any childcare in place for her youngest and doesn't intend to until he's 6 months old.  She also doesn't have him in any sort of a routine, which I just find mind boggling especially since she also has a toddler she needs to get to nursery in the mornings.  I've got HotNanny and Indiegirl on hand to look after the littlies - I'm not sure if DiamondTypist is really going to switch off though.  I doubt she's left her one with anyone yet. 

It is bizarre, I just don't have that "Only I can soothe him" type response.  He's not bothered who picks him up and cuddles him, which is entirely because he's been used to being looked after by other people from literally a few days old.  I didn't think it was fair to set up that kind of expectation when it wasn't something I could continue long term.  Same with breastfeeding - it wasn't going to be possible to do long term so we fed him in a way that meant he wasn't going to have to chop and change and get upset about it.  I'm also now even more anti-maternity-leave since I just think it's cruel to let the baby have 10 months with solely being looked after by mummy and then rip her away.  Far more sensible to have a staggered return where they do 1-2 days a week initially and then back within say 12 weeks.




I worked at one company where they had staggered retirement. The person that was going to retire did one day less each week which I thought was smart because the other people who were going to pick up their work could learn more stuff but have the benefit of their experience. I reckon that could work with maternity.  [TheMoor] 5/30/2012 5:14:53 AM
Mum did similar with my baby brother. She didn't follow a book, but basically knew that a routine was best for baby and for her. He was one of the easiest babies I've ever known. She was a HV so she knows what she's talking about with babbers. There's just so much pressure on Mums these days to be 'the best mum', but so much conflicting information - women need to trust their instincts more, in my opinion.  [Little Spoon] 5/30/2012 5:35:22 AM
I completely agree with you. I do believe you can quickly get into a routine if you want to! I bought that book by the way, on your recommendation. I've only managed a little because everything sends me to sleep.

We have already decided that Nicol's folks will probably take baby a few days each week so I can get back to work, as they have both decided to retire next year. I like to be organised :) x [*NightBlossom*]
5/30/2012 5:51:45 AM
PS - Way to go winning one for working Mums. I am feeling smug for you :) xxxxxxxxxxxxx [*NightBlossom*] 5/30/2012 5:52:34 AM
hmmm.... I have had two children and raised themn both in the same way. One cried a lot. I mean A LOT. He fed every hour at times, most times times every two hours. He woke plenty during the night, actually AFTER I went back to work as he was sleeping through at three months. Layla is happy to lay and watch and chatter and entertain herself for significant periods of time, Cameron would scream after one minute. I think there is a lot to do with the child's own temperament. [mia butterfly] 5/30/2012 6:37:56 AM
Also, I find it hard to leave Layla with someone I don't know, because I don't know them. Would you want to leave the most precious thing you have with someone you don't know just because they claim they will look after them well? I have no issues with leaving her with someone I know and trust...it's just that those people are also working most of the time or live very far away. [mia butterfly] 5/30/2012 6:41:57 AM
sorry...just thought I'd give a different perspective. [mia butterfly] 5/30/2012 6:43:03 AM
You've got a pretty good baby there!!! Kind of nice that you can do the smug thing in a room full of women who likely feel they are superior for other reasons ;) Go CAmdenX! [mindlessme] 5/30/2012 6:53:09 AM
You're my parenting hero!!
What baby books did you read aside from The Contented Little Baby?
Lee Mee
xXx
 [Etoile Filante]
5/30/2012 6:57:14 AM
The thing I found frustrating was that people would ask me round for lunch and I couldn't go because my kids were asleep. I missed lunch, but it was worth it to have children who sleep through the night. Those same people would ask and beg me for tips to get their kids to sleep through, but wouldn't put their social lives on hold so their kids could sleep.
 [~mujer~]
5/30/2012 7:48:36 AM
You do seem to have a very well-behaved baby, but also you've been very sensible, clear about your routine etc. too -- I think you probably get the baby you set yourself up for to a large extent, although some of it is probably down to natural temperament too. I'll be trying it out first on our puppy before I even think about babies -- if I can't get a well-behaved dog I may have to rethink baby plans for a while :) [sylvie] 5/30/2012 10:26:10 AM
I agree with what you are saying but I think it's not just about rigid routines. Apart from his health problems, mine is an easy baby, he's slept through almost since day one, he set his own eat / sleep schedule (with a bit of tweaking from me!) is happy going to anyone and only ever screams if he's starving or in pain. Personally I think if you respect the kid it'll be good if not it'll scream. x [Mrs_R] 5/30/2012 1:06:14 PM
Wow! Really surprised that babies in Scotland are so different from babies elsewhere in the world. (You must be super mum!) In my experience they naturally get themselves onto a schedule within a few weeks of birth (certainly by one month) *even if* the mother is hardcore on attachment parenting, and infants rarely cry or fuss if there needs are met and certainly not if they are breastfed. And newborns don't tend to show a preference for any caretaker for quite a while. People have different ways of doing things and just because not everyone uses your way doesn't meant they are wrong or that you are superior. [Fred] 5/30/2012 2:49:45 PM
I've said it before and I say it again, I know my brother and his missus did exactly that with their first born: routine, and as a result she is a happy, balanced wee girl and they're not completely haggard from sleepless nights and too many tantrums. Good on you for sticking to your guns, sounds like yesterday proved you right! [Tigra Aurora] 5/30/2012 11:58:03 PM


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