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the words speak for themselves Monday, February 27, 2012

John F. Kennedy, on September 12, 1960, speaking to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association: 

"I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute — where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be a Catholic) how to act and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote. … I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish … where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials — and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.

 

"For while this year it may be a Catholic against whom the finger of suspicion is pointed, in other years it has been, and may someday be again, a Jew--or a Quaker, or a Unitarian, or a Baptist. It was Virginia's harassment of Baptist preachers, for example, that helped lead to Jefferson's statute of religious freedom. Today I may be the victim, but tomorrow it may be you--until the whole fabric of our harmonious society is ripped at a time of great national peril."

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Ronald Reagan, on October 26, 1984 speaking to Temple Hillel and community leaders:

"We in the United States, above all, must remember that lesson, for we were founded as a nation of openness to people of all beliefs. And so we must remain. Our very unity has been strengthened by our pluralism. We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate. All are free to believe, or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to speak of and act on their belief. . . .

"At the same time that our Constitution prohibits state establishment of religion, it protects the free exercise of all religions. And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly neutral. And government should not make it more difficult for Christians, Jews, Muslims, or other believing people to practice their faith."

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Rick Santorum on "Meet the Press" Sunday, referring to Kennedy's speech above:

 

 

 

 

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 "I don't believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute. The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country. This is the First Amendment. The First Amendment says the free exercise of religion. That means bringing everybody, people of faith and no faith, into the public square. … To say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case?"




Sorry for the formatting issues.  [inmylife] 2/27/2012 9:38:48 PM
That IS pretty much what a froth of feces and sex lube would have to say about the separation of church and state, yes. [littlefallsmets] 2/27/2012 10:05:54 PM
its terrifying that he just...doesnt..get...it. sigh.

 [Jazmynroez]
2/28/2012 1:04:16 AM
Clueless [debbifrench] 2/28/2012 2:23:17 AM
YEP!
It's amazing how the Republican candidates, when being candid, shoot themselves in the foot! [darcy0207]
2/28/2012 11:23:49 AM
Unbelievable! [Happy Trails] 2/28/2012 12:17:26 PM
The problem is that the Evangelical Christians don't consider their faith to be "beliefs." They deem it to be the absolute truth. And with that kind of conviction, they feel justified to promote it (or cram it down people's throats). [KindnessMatters] 2/28/2012 1:17:23 PM
ryn; yeah, and "...men could just follow the "old-fashioned" method they used in his day of putting" his penis in a hot apple pie...or better yet, an acid bath.  [RueSome] 2/28/2012 3:10:04 PM
The difference is that RR and JFK had better writers/salesmen who at least knew the difference btw absolute TRUTHS and "beliefs". At least Santorum practices what he preaches...even if it is just ignorant idiocy. Yes, Rick, I do want to throw up! [RueSome] 2/28/2012 3:22:34 PM
Other than abortion and capital punishment, what other contentious 'political' issues skirt the boundaries of separation of church and state?

Am I the only one who sees the irony behind the fact that people considered religious fundamentals are categorically considered Republicans, ergo against abortion, but people considered non-religious liberals are categorically considered Democrats, ergo against capital punishment?

Oh! There's that fine line, again...my bad.

 [JeniDancer]
2/28/2012 6:17:48 PM


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