My Two Cent On Nice

Nice. Well, Ireland’s passed Nice. The Second Nice Referendum, sponsored by Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?, asked us all “is that your final answer?” after we rejected the same proposal last year. And asking Ireland to vote again was the right thing to do. Ireland has unanimously passed every EU-related referendum since 1973. Suddenly it rejects the biggest one ever. That’s a dramatic step away from the established pattern, and a step made by a fraction of the eligible voters in Ireland. Ireland had to be asked “are you sure?” Because if Nice was rejected again (provoking a huge constitutional crisis and raising the possibility of an enlarged EU working like a county council) then questions would have to be asked about Ireland within the EU. Do the people of Ireland want to stay within the EU? Do the people of Ireland, who’ve been near model members of the EU for almost thirty years, want to leave, despite being the only English-speaking country to have ditched their own currency and adopted the common European currency? It sounded like an almost schizophrenic decision. So we were asked again. And the Treaty of Nice, after a far more informative and argued-out campaign, was approved by far more people (49% of the electorate) than last time. Only two out of the 42 electoral districts approved the Treaty in the first referendum; this time not one district rejected it. If there was ever justification sought for holding an identical referendum twice…..

For those who don’t know what Nice is, two years ago the 15 leaders of the states of the European Union got together in the charming French city of Nice (pronounced “niece”) and set out this treaty to pave the way for expansion of the Union to take in Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Cyprus and Malta. Unlike the United States, the EU does not intend to purchase the territory needed for expansion but instead will re-jig it’s various constituent parts to make an enlarged EU more efficient. A 25 member European Union cannot be as democratic as a 15 member union, not in the way the institutions are now. There’s too many vetos, too many conditions and regulations. The EU has to start thinking about the Union, not each country for itself.

The Treaty of Nice isn’t great. It’s all about taking away our Commissioner every four years. It’s about qualified majority voting; if we don’t like something but everyone else does, then tough. It’s about diluting our funding, making us a net contributor to the European Social Fund among other things. Ireland will move from one of the poorest countries in Europe to by far one of the richest. In fact, we have already made that move. But we’re still in the poor mindset. Ireland still lacks confidence. And it’s corrupt. And it has no imagination. And there’s no looking at the big picture. But most of all, Ireland seems to have lost it’s charity. How come not one ad going for a Yes vote for Nice asked us to vote Yes to allow in countries like Lithuania; a small Catholic country of almost four million dominated for centuries by a vast neighbour and now finding it’s feet. A country just like us. Right now in the EU, there’s no other country like Ireland. Finland is frozen, has six million people and has a fetish for driving very fast in powerful cars and making incredibly popular mobile phones. That’s as close as you get to Ireland. But within the applicant countries are a LOT of countries like Ireland. So why didn’t I see any poster saying “Vote Yes For THEM!” Why must we always ask “what’s in it for us?” There are things in Nice for us; new tariff-free markets and sources of labour (there’s a labour shortage here, remember?) and…..damn it there’ll be European unity! Why must Western Europe be the privileged bit just because 70 years ago a few madmen decided to have a war? How stupid is it to keep this division between east and west? Europe is the centre of western civilisation; everywhere else in the world that’s regarded as “the West” is simply a photocopy of the original. It’s the homeland to not only half a billion people, but also the ancestral homeland to every person with Caucasian blood in them. Why hasn’t this happened sooner? Why is Europe such a non-entity in world affairs? Because we’ve spent decades in committees, voting sessions and bureaucratic bullshit. The United States is the most powerful country in the world; it isn’t strong because it halts a bill due to the non-agreement of Rhode Island in article 133 of the legislation. The EU needs to be stripped down for speed, flexibility and effectiveness. This means a loss of something, of course it does. But think of what we could do……

j

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October 21, 2002

I heard Pat Cox speak last Thursday night and he took the point you refer to, let these countries in, do it for them.

October 21, 2002

I think it struck a cord with a lot of people in the room

October 21, 2002

I’d take a slightly different view, in that I don’t think an imperfect treaty should go through. I think it was unfair of the EU to produce a treaty with so many different aspects to it, and to ask us to say Yes or No. I agree with a lot of the treaty, probably more than I disagree. But the parts I disagree with made me vote No.

October 21, 2002

The outcome of Nice 2: The Revenge is not justification for holding an identical referendum twice, it’s proof that the Irish voting public really couldn’t give a shit. Or that the Irish voting public are terrified of losing EU money. Delete as applicable. I must say I loved the PD’s campaign posters which utilised that most sophisticated of political tools – sad looking children….

October 21, 2002

… I was certain that that was only phase one and in the last few days, they’d be replaced by even sadder looking children (possibly accompanied by wretched puppy dogs). And instead of “It’s my future, vote yes”, we’d have “Daddy says he’ll lock me in the cupboard again if you don’t vote yes”. I really should enter politics…

I thought it was really interesting, the ‘Is that your final answer’ way of having a referendum. And what if it is?? It’s say yes or… we’re out of the game? Probably, eventually. I was rather glad I didn’t actually have a vote, although I know how I would have voted.

October 23, 2002

I was pissed that it was passed 🙁

I was the 1st in Q on voting day as I was going to Wicklow, yer one thought I was there to help for the day lol, (formaly known as pauliewaddles) I’ll be back

I’m a dedicated no voter in this instance, even campaigned for the green party, but in all honesty i agree with some of your points. This is the first yes speech that has made any sense. I still disagree and i can’t wait til i get to say i told u so and theres is no way a govt. should get away with putting the exact smae thing to us again but you’ve made me think. thanx. 🙂 love always xxx