Pregnant FTM

Hi folks,

Some of you may have already heard about this story, or seen pictures, or seen the guy on Oprah.
His name is Thomas Beattie.

The Oprah Interview

One of my regulars asked my opinion, which I’m not bothered about, so here goes.

I have no problem with it.  First off, I’m not the one pregnant. I have nothing to do with the story, and it has no negative impact on me.

He seems a well adjusted person, and so I’m very happy for him, and I hope he and his spouse get thru this without excessive interference from outside and hopefully no negative impacts on their family life because of the publicity.

I do hope that the story helps break folks out of the "normal" concepts of man or woman and nothing in between.  We seem to grow up with these concepts set in our heads.  Trans folk battle against these ideas, first privately in our own heads, then often more publicly in one way or another.  Transitioning is one way.  Public activism, lobbying, that’s another. 

Beattie’s story is, I must admit, new to me.  There’s nothing scientifically challenging or new about it, I’m sure that an awful lot of FTMs could have made this choice long before this.  Granted, they probably would have run into a lot more negative reactions than Beattie is. 

I corresponded with several FTMs that I know – some thru OD, some not, about this case, just to see how they feel.  Reactions were varied, some were grossed out (the youngest FTM that I’m friends with), others just couldn’t see going there, another FTM that I know transitioned after raising 4 sons, so his reaction was more like "so? hm."

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One of my other best friends on OD also pointed out, quite rightly, how horrible the doctors treated this person, or should we say, refused to treat this person.  He couldn’t find an OB/GYN that was willing to treat him.  I imagine that they were too embarrassed to have a pregnant man sitting in their waiting room and having to explain it to staff and worse, the other patients.  That’s where the gender discrimination comes to the hard part – when it ends up threatening your health, because you can’t get services.
** end edit **

So, how do I feel about it?  Go for it, Tom.  I hope you get to raise your kid in peace and love (and maybe some prosperity from Oprah and the other media types).  I hope this helps everyone else stop being so hung up on gender.

Go read Helen Boyd’s "She’s Not The Man I Married".  Excellent book. 

If you’re a woman, were you a tomboy when you were young? When did you stop being a tomboy?  Or rather, when did you get convinced that it wasn’t appropriate for you to be a tomboy?  If you remember those times now, do you remember them with regret that you’re not "allowed" to have that fun anymore?

If you’re a guy, would you have rather been cooking or sewing clothes or doing artwork that you ended up putting aside because you got teased about it?  Did a little something in you die when you gave it up?

Congratulations, and welcome to the Transgender family.  Just because you don’t want to live as the opposite gender or dress that way doesn’t mean that you don’t qualify.  

I don’t believe there is such a thing as a "all man" or "all woman".  I think all of us are mixes.  Some of us have to repress one side of ourselves to avoid this meaningless and mean teasing that we get as kids, or outright dangerous harrassment and physical violence we see as teenagers and adults. 

It’s that need to repress the other side of ourselves that is, I think, at the root of what the transgender movement is all about.  We shouldn’t have to do it. We end up being lesser people because we have to do it — less than we could be, not as whole.  When we are whole, when we are ourselves, we are better people, and can do more about making the world a better place.

My own story:  for decades, I repressed this as much as I could. I had a job as an engineer, kind of dead-end, in a way, and it wasn’t that fulfilling.  It was only after I really came to terms with this stuff, realized that I didn’t have to stay in that job, and now Sweety and I have these plans to open up our own center in a few years and really really help people.  Help people get better, or design new information systems?  Does the world really need more information systems? I don’t think so. Does the world need more healthy people? Do more people deserve to be healthier?  I most definitely think so. 

So, I think my own journey is helping me be a better person, helping me find a better way thru this world, a way that more involves service to others. 

If allowing other folks to examine whatever transgender feelings they might have, no matter how slight, in a safe and helpful way, if this movement helps them to become better people (regardless of whether they’re CD or TG or TS or xyz), then this is good. 

Wow.  I just stopped and realized what an inspiration that question was.  Thanks, you know who you are.  Did that answer help?  😉

take care, everyone,
Love and peace
Jude

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April 7, 2008

I think the only problem I have with it is the public knowing. It’s not easy being a kid. There is always something the other kids will beat you up about. That is always a concern of mine for any number of reasons. I think it’s great that people become informed and that we can live in a place and time where people can be themselves. I just don’t like it that children might have to pay a high price for that. It’s really very complex.

April 7, 2008

Damn, I was gonna ask you your opinion on it! That was a really interesting entry, and I agree with you. If Beattie wants to go ahead with this, I see no reason why not. Like you, I hope it stops people viewing sex as either ‘male’ or ‘female’ with no inbetween. Speaking of, have you ever watched Tranamerica? What did you think?

*applaud* 🙂 It finally made the papers. I was wondering how long it would take. Talking to people at work about it and they are all the same in their reactions, “Whoa, that’s weird, how do you explain THAT to your kid?” Which I reply that you don’t need to explain two parents to your kid. It’s understood. People are idiots. :/

I was a total tomboy growing up. Then I grew 36D breasts in the 8th grade and since big breasts get in the way of being a tomboy I outgrew that stage. Big breastes also distract young boys so that really put an end to my tomboy ways. Having my guy friends suddenly forget I had a head attached to my body is very annoying when you’re 13, 14 years old. I hope you and Sweety have a wonderfulweek. Much love to you both. Robin XO

April 7, 2008

Oops, I meant Transamerica. That wily ‘s’.

April 7, 2008

David’s mother asked me about that. She saw the Oprah show on him too. My response was similar to yours- it has nothing to do with me or David. David said that it was the same as one of our friends, who started the transition, gave up for a while and had kids in the mean time. Only difference was he hadn’t been on T as long, and hadn’t had the top surgery. David told me: “don’t youDARE get any ideas, no way am I doing that”. I didn’t think he would. Lots of hugs, John

April 7, 2008

I think people just need to be more accepting of the fact that we are all different and that we have to be able to live in our own skin. The public is going to blow this way out of the water and it is going to make things worse. I hope all the luck to this couple and to the beautiful baby they are going to bring into the world.

April 7, 2008

I think its an extremely interresting development certainality it will change how people view parenthood. I wouldn’t want to be in the couple’s shoes or their childs but I believe they are brave to do it.

i think people are more curious than anything else. I reckon good on him for doing it especially when he’s doing it because his partner is unable to have kids. i hope the religious types can leave him alone though because they are the ones who can make his life hell! xxx

April 7, 2008

the more it is talked about the less of a big deal it will be

April 7, 2008

Interesting entry. I managed to catch part of this when it aired. I hope that this will help the general public be more accepting of people as just people. I also hope this will help people be more informed. We should not have to repress a side ourselves due to what others think. Great entry.

Doesn’t seem like a big deal to me at all. To each his/her own, yanno?

April 8, 2008

I believe I emailed you on this one. I couldn’t stop thinking about all the judgements being thrown his way by doctors not accepting him and whatnot. I just couldn’t deal with that myself. RYN: San Jose is quite a ways from where I live. I would love a chance to meet you though. I’ve talked to K and we are thinking of a mini vacation to that area when you are there. Give us some dates. So far- it’s a maybe probably. Don’t you love direct answers? What’s holding us back is we are probably going to Louisana for a friend’s birthday in June and that’s a pricey trip for us to fly there and we want to visit the area since we will be there. We’ll talk more about this.

April 9, 2008

Very good entry and I think you’re right with all you said – thanks for posting your opinion on this 🙂

April 9, 2008

“I don’t believe there is such a thing as a “all man” or “all woman”. I think all of us are mixes.” I totally agree. I think sexual orientation is way way WAY more fluid a concept than people (so far) believe. My best friend considered herself completely heterosexual until she was in her 40s and realized she is head-over-heels in love with another friend of hers, who came out asa teenager. As for Thomas Beattie, I’m not real sure how exactly it’s anyone else’s business – but that is also my opinion on everyone else’s sexual orientation. On a side note, I’m REAL glad to see this here because when I clicked on the Portland public radio station yesterday I thought I saw something about a pregnant man – clicked back and it was gone. I was pretty darned certain I was losing my mind!

April 9, 2008

RYN: David gets rejected from a lot of things for bizarre reasons like that. He once got rejected for a credit card because his checking account had gone from $0 to $6000 over night. I’m so sorry you didn’t get to really explore Newport. It’s an amazing place. The park next to Starbucks is a great place to sit and sober up if you happen to go to Brick Alley Pub. Their drinks are STRONG. <P> Lots of hugs, John

April 10, 2008

Just one thing: it wasnt that he couldnt get a doctor to take him as a patient because he was pregnant. The trouble was getting a doctor to treat him to get him pregnant. I feel certain that if he went to a doctor as an OB patient that he would have been seen. However a person who has chosen to live as a male but wants to get pregnant is a whole nother thing.

April 25, 2008

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