Please help: I need your opinion

I know that most of you I don’t know so this would be a good way of getting an objective opinion. I’m about to tell a real story and I need your opinion of what you see.

One of my friends one day told me about her and a guy. We’ll call the girl- Brooke and the guy- Jon.

Brooke told me that Jon and her were kind of dating but not really (no official title) because she wasn’t sure if she actually wanted to date him or not. They were hanging out for awhile for example: going to brewer games, the bars, hanging out with his friends, watching movies, or just talking.

She told him from the beginning that she wasn’t going to have sex until she was married- she liked her morals/values and what she believed in. He said he respected that.

Keep in mind that he said he was in love with her for awhile and knew that she didn’t feel the same. She knew he cared because he always listened and wanted to hang out, etc.  Well, I guess they made out a couple of times. Then when they were drunk a couple times- lost clothes and almost had sex once (but it was stopped by both of them -b4 they went too far). He cared enuf to respect her wishes and didn’t press for anything more.

Well, then one night. She was wasted and not really alert. I guess he wasn’t completely sober but enough that he drove them back to where they were staying. They ended up making out and more. She was too drunk to realize what was going on (she was passing in and out). She trusted he wouldn’t do anything(otherwise she never would have drank that much) She didn’t know what was happening (and if she had- would have stopped it…)

But then the Monday after they were talking and she found out they had sex. She didn’t even know it happened. She flipped like any person would to find out she lost her virginity and can’t really remember anything. He thought she knew what was happening and that since she didn’t make a move to stop anything like before he thought that she was aware of it. He said he didn’t know why it happened… that they got lost in the moment. He just doesnt know. He’s sorry it happened because things arn’t as they once where. They talk and have hungout a couple times but she said it’s really awkward. She still cares in general but she can’t face  what happened because shes hurt and angry. He said if he could take it back he would just so he could be close to her again.

He knows he’s lost trust from her and says that he wants to prove it will never happen agian unless under the right circumstances (marriage).  She doesnt know whether to believe him. She thinks he’s sincere and actually cares. He’s even cried over what happened and is truly sorry. She doesnt know what to do.

She asked me… ‘cuz she’s going nuts. She doesnt know what to do.. and I’m not sure what to tell her. She said that one of her friends says it was rape and wants her to turn him in. Brooke said she feels like in a way it could have been but she couldn’t see him purposely doing it.  She just wants to put it behind her but her friend keeps revisiting it and wants her to do something about it.

What do you guys think? Is it rape? A misunderstanding? Should she still be talking to him? If you have questions I’ll try to answer them the best of my knowledge if it helps. I just don’t know what to tell her or what to do. I’ve met him and I thought he was a nice guy and it looked like he cared alot. So i have no idea.

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December 3, 2009

Well that would be called date rape. But its more of a misunderstanding. They were both drinking and of course not in the perfect state of mind. Here’s the biggest issue she didn’t say “no” or “stop” so how was he suppose to know this is something she didn’t want at that moment. If she were to press charges it probably wouldnt get far. If she feels like he’s truly sorry & really wasn’t trying

December 3, 2009

To hurt her, she should just forgive him. He obviously cares about her if he brought up the whole marriage thing. You should let her know that though she no longer is a virgin she can always be a re-born again virgin. And she needs to be more of a responsible drinker. Anyways hope this helped. Take care,

January 26, 2010

NO matter what past they had, even a week before, since she told him that she will not have sex before she gets married and IF she was passed out while he was having sex with her, that is rape even though that guy won’t be happy about that. IF she didn’t remember what happened then she was passed out. If she found out the next day from him , then she was passed out , passed out–raped. IF he knew that he had to TELL her they had sex , then he also knew that he was raping her. HOWEVER, as far as turning him in, with their past, that’s a difficult one. Seems the better move is to CROSS this guy OFF the friend list and never see him again , since he obviously can not be trusted at all. Anyone who has sex with someone who is officially passed out is totally wrong. yea yea, I said the word WRONG. It doesn ‘t matter even if she had sex with him weeks before, if she was passed out this time, that is rape.